Ever wonder how a peaceful disc golf course can turn into a battleground? This episode takes you on a fascinating journey through the controversy surrounding a Top 50 disc golf course in Voorhees, NJ. We dissect the clash between conservation, recreational space, and the meddling influence of a wealthy neighbor. Learn about the importance of preserving public recreational spaces when money enters the equation, and how such a situation impacts the local community and the disc golf scene.
From the disc golf course, the conversation takes a delightful detour to backyard chickens, and the joy and challenges of pet ownership.We unpack the story of Stephen A Schwartzman's controversial donations to Abington High School and his quest to rename the school after him - a discourse that reveals the intersection of philanthropy and politics.
Our discussion takes another interesting twist as we share the story of a UFC fighter who found more financial success on OnlyFans than in the UFC ring. We also recount an intriguing episode of Sword and Scale, a surprising encounter between a country singer and the police, and the fascinating world of Elon Musk's Starlink satellites. Finally, we share our dream of building a mountain house, and the freedom and challenges inherent in homesteading and off-grid living. Join us as we explore these captivating topics and more!
Ever wonder how a peaceful disc golf course can turn into a battleground? This episode takes you on a fascinating journey through the controversy surrounding a Top 50 disc golf course in Voorhees, NJ. We dissect the clash between conservation, recreational space, and the meddling influence of a wealthy neighbor. Learn about the importance of preserving public recreational spaces when money enters the equation, and how such a situation impacts the local community and the disc golf scene.
From the disc golf course, the conversation takes a delightful detour to backyard chickens, and the joy and challenges of pet ownership.We unpack the story of Stephen A Schwartzman's controversial donations to Abington High School and his quest to rename the school after him - a discourse that reveals the intersection of philanthropy and politics.
Our discussion takes another interesting twist as we share the story of a UFC fighter who found more financial success on OnlyFans than in the UFC ring. We also recount an intriguing episode of Sword and Scale, a surprising encounter between a country singer and the police, and the fascinating world of Elon Musk's Starlink satellites. Finally, we share our dream of building a mountain house, and the freedom and challenges inherent in homesteading and off-grid living. Join us as we explore these captivating topics and more!
All right, and this is another episode of Express Lane podcast with.
Speaker 2:Kevin Stan. What's going on everybody?
Speaker 1:What's up?
Speaker 2:Not too much. I run around a little tired. Was out played disc golf this morning.
Speaker 1:Yeah and. What course?
Speaker 2:Stafford Woods. So actually I was gonna bring this up. There's a whole thing going on with this course, which is Top 50 course in the world. I think it's ranked like number 37 or 38 some somewhere around there 50 courses no out of the courses in the world.
Speaker 1:How many courses are there?
Speaker 2:thousands tens of thousands, probably, but this course in Jersey, like over in a Voorhees, is it's on a piece of public property that the city bought using state funds and you can only use it for like, like conservation, certain types of things to do, and they put it in in 2012.
Speaker 2:It a lot of work went into the course, a lot of volunteer hours, a lot of stuff. Like the pro tour for disc golf comes through there once a year, normally for a tournament, and it's a big deal. And just recently there was a quote-unquote anonymous tip of the activities on that course were not it's not that it was illegal activities, just that they were doing they were using that property for something that it wasn't zoned for, because on these conservation, conservation properties you can only use them for passive recreation. You can't do active recreation. But the dividing line there is almost non-existent.
Speaker 1:I was gonna say what's?
Speaker 2:what's the? Difference so at least on this article I was reading about, it was the. The Examples they gave was Active like something like active recreation would be having a picnic. So you couldn't have a picnic on this place because that's considered active recreation. But if in the winter it's covered with snow and you wanted to go cross-country skiing through there, that's considered passive recreation.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so just like the dividing line isn't there, it's just kind of our fucking made up bullshit yeah and in 2012 they put in this request because they wanted to turn it into a disc golf course and At that point disc golf fell in the purview of passive recreation. So since then, there's this farm next door that got bought and then turned from like a regular bullshit farm Into a vineyard, that's trying to put up this big winery building and wants people to come for that. So now this dude with shit, tons of money that is their neighbor next door, I think was the quote-unquote anonymous tip and is just paying off the, the DEP, the Department of Environmental Protection which handles this, not America.
Speaker 1:I know.
Speaker 2:So I think he's kind of Funding this investigation to be like, well, it's not really passive recreation, they're active over there. They should be not allowed to be doing anything, because I think this dude wants to like Take his horses from the farm and like just use that as extension of his own property.
Speaker 1:Okay, well, also, if he's having like a thing, wouldn't? If he wants people to come through his property, wouldn't he like kind of pair with that and Like, hey, disc golfers, come over on my property and now you would?
Speaker 2:set up a thing or something. You're thinking like somebody that isn't rich and can just boost people out of their way.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:So I think that's where you would be like oh, here's like a couple of sample bottles of wine, like, if you like that, maybe come to this disc golf course, and when you're done you can come to the winery. Yeah, have lunch and get a bottle of wine or take a tour, or do something you would think it could be a Symbiotic relationship where they could work together.
Speaker 1:Especially, he knows, once a year there's gonna be a big thing there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but apparently the guys like when I was playing the course really hates disc golfers Maybe well, when I was playing the course I talked to a local guy that says he volunteers and like, has talked to that guy and and he's like, the guy's just like five foot three, napoleon, complex little dick man that he he saw me was riding his horse through the property and he went up to him.
Speaker 2:He's like, hey, man, just uh, there's disc golf going on. Like don't want you to get hit, don't want your horse to get spooked, and like tear off through the woods and dropy or anything. Just, you know, be aware, this is what's happening here. And the guy's like, oh, whatever I do, whatever I want.
Speaker 1:He's like. So I guess that it's passive to ride a horse?
Speaker 2:Yes, apparently, yeah but either way, I just say are you just being a dick for the sole reason of being a dick?
Speaker 1:Okay so.
Speaker 2:Right now it's there's an investigation Into the use of the property. So the last time one of these happened talking to this local guy, he was like they did the investigation and then it was like four months later that they had the results of the investigation come out. So this new investigation started like two weeks ago Maybe. So there's a couple months left of guaranteed life in this course, which is the number one course in New Jersey, on top 50 course ranked in the world, that Might be going away Just cuz some rich prick wants to use the property himself hilarious.
Speaker 1:So this is kind of like our protect the parks a little bit.
Speaker 2:Protect the disc golf, but there's there's a like a changeorg, I'll have to. I'll try to find it and I'll put it in like I have the link for it, because I went and signed on the petition and everything Yay. Well, I kind of feel strongly about this type of thing.
Speaker 1:Things that get you to feel strongly about this golf and you know rich pricks. Yeah, I take away disc golf. Fuck rich people, right?
Speaker 2:Yeah, we're all right fuck rich people if you're fucking with my disc golf okay. Yeah, I'll try. I'll send you the link so when we post this so you can get a link out there for people to go in. It's got almost 25,000 signatures in like two weeks.
Speaker 1:That's good.
Speaker 2:There's a lot of eyes behind it on the, the disc golf Scene, where in the pro tour, pro tour, guys have posted about it and be like hey man, this is something to watch. Like, don't let this happen.
Speaker 1:Pretty crazy like so they're just gonna go petition whatever government officials are there and be like oh well, here's the difference between passive and active. What so? That's really the thing. Is there, just out of there the.
Speaker 2:It was built with disc golf falling under this umbrella of passive recreation. And and Now they're just trying to be like well, actually, disc golf isn't that? They're not trying to change anything other than the classification of what disc golf falls under. And the guy like there's a bunch of benches, there's some like retaining walls, there's a lot of like man hours and work that was done to this property to have it look as nice and be as nice as it is. And they're like okay, well, if you want us out, we'll just rip all this shit. And he's like, no, you don't have to rip that stuff out. Like that stuff can stay. And I'm like, oh, you just want us the people out of here.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you fucking his shit up Apparently All right. So you went and played disc golf, got yourself into this whole fiasco of signing petitions.
Speaker 2:I'm not into a fiasco. I signed the petition like a week ago when I saw this thing on.
Speaker 1:It seems like you're a investee man?
Speaker 2:I don't. It's a really nice course and I want to be able to keep playing it.
Speaker 1:Okay. So it really makes you start thinking about like government and stuff and it's like fuck those guys.
Speaker 2:What's the difference between somebody coming into the local course around the corner from me and saying, yeah, you guys can't fucking do this?
Speaker 1:Yeah, we're just, like you know, positioning any of your local government from making rules for you and anybody in your neighborhood to follow, exactly, yeah.
Speaker 2:Money talks man.
Speaker 1:We got chicken gate around here. They're trying to get rid of like people that own chickens.
Speaker 2:So it's like you know, there's a lot of big yards around here Are they trying to just make it illegal to have chickens or are they changing because they're trying to get money for it? Because I saw when we moved into our house and one of the first things I looked up was could we own chickens? And it's where we live, it's legal, but it has to be. It's something like 90 feet from the street and 90 feet from any property line, which our property isn't that big, so it's like that doesn't exist. So unless I wanted to talk to all like six of the neighbors' houses around me to be like, hey, is it cool if I have chickens and you guys aren't gonna fucking say anything.
Speaker 1:And roosters. I guess there's a thing with roosters, because they bother people and shit.
Speaker 2:That's because they're loud, like, I think, regular chickens don't make too much noise.
Speaker 1:No, the hell is now, just from reading it on the town talk and shit is just like, basically they either got complaints or whatever and they also want to get a little bit of money out of people. So yeah, with the rules of being a certain amount away from your neighbors and having a certain amount of coop per chicken, it's also then you've got to apply for, like you know, applications and shit like that to have chickens, which is hilarious, like just another way for small government to get in your pocket.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, and well, there's big business involved. There's something like if every household had two chickens or if not every household, I think maybe every other household had two chickens, then there would be no need for anyone to buy eggs anymore. Like you could give your neighbor enough eggs for the week for them to do whatever they needed, and you would still have enough.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like when I went over to Elaine and Andy's house, like they couldn't wait to give me eggs, they have, like you know, 10 chickens or something Like, oh yeah, I've got eggs, we've got eggs. Like, yeah, and I think if everybody had chickens they're fucking easy. Like you get a little space, Like I think about getting them here, throwing them right behind here. There's a little space between the garage and the fence of the next door neighbor.
Speaker 2:Oh, dude, they're great. Put some chicken wire up. Let them out in the yard, eat up all the bugs and shit that like destroys your grass and crops and plants and stuff.
Speaker 1:The only thing is they shit everywhere. It's gross. You got a dog that'll lap that right up. Oh yeah, she's fucking gross. Meanwhile, people let their dogs lick their faces yeah, they do Gross After my wife will be like stop licking yourself. And then it's like 10 minutes later.
Speaker 2:I don't even want to kiss.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:Winston yesterday peed in the house for the first time in like over a year and a half, Like he was like we got him potty training. He was really like good to not go in the house.
Speaker 1:But I guess Except for when he's diarrhea, and all over, yeah well that was one that he was sick.
Speaker 2:This was, I think Britt took him to go get, like we say, fermanated, where they just they give him a bath and vacuum all the loose hair off him and then, like, clip his nails and do all you know, pretty him up. So he was off doing that and then came home we fed him and after we've I fed him, I'm playing Starfield and he comes out of like out of the kitchen, just looks at me and starts peeing a little bit. I'm like yo fuck.
Speaker 1:So what was the problem? Like, why do you do it?
Speaker 2:I think he just didn't pee like all day Since that morning like he, just he was, went out early in the morning and then didn't go out again and then went to the groomer and was playing with them and hanging out. And then came home from the groomer and was just inside and was just like I gotta go Dickhead, stop playing Starfield.
Speaker 1:Basically that's funny. Now she's been pretty good. She's four years old now, so we haven't had that in a while.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean he's two. It's the first one in year and I had like since he was a puppy like little.
Speaker 1:That's cool, Not cool.
Speaker 2:No, I mean, I really wanted to just like grab him by the throat and like strangle him a little bit, but that's, you know, abuse.
Speaker 1:Yeah, definitely anti animal abuse on here. Yeah, no, I didn't do it Good job.
Speaker 2:I thought about it. I cocked a leg back in for a hot second and stopped.
Speaker 1:Did you take him outside with your headphones on no?
Speaker 2:I dropped the headphones, threw them on a leash and, like, dragged him outside, made him pee, and then he was like oh the neighbor's dog was like don't even fucking think about it.
Speaker 1:What else you got?
Speaker 2:Uh, I mean Star. You saw you were playing Starfield. How you? No, I didn't. No, no, Is it kid playing Star? Somebody? I saw a Stanford pig. Starfield was on Xbox.
Speaker 1:No, I'm still playing the Ablo. I haven't downloaded Starfield yet.
Speaker 2:Different person? No, maybe I was a phone, it's all right. It's RPG, it's I've never. It's a Bethesda, so like Skyrim, fallout, elder Scrolls.
Speaker 1:Pick your pronoun.
Speaker 2:You think you have the ability to, but I've never played anything from Bethesda, like I never played any of the fallouts and I never played any of the Elder Scrolls. I know Skyrim has been out on 17 different consoles. At this point I haven't played it once.
Speaker 1:That's probably my favorite one. The dragon was good too, so I was like I don't know it's free.
Speaker 2:It's different. It's not just a straight like multiplayer shooter. There's like a whole bunch of different aspects to it. Plus it's in space. Check it out.
Speaker 1:Fly around spaceships and stuff.
Speaker 2:You jump from different different planets and galaxies and shit Like I. You can come back to our solar system. You can't go to Earth, which I don't know. Why not? Maybe they address it in the story that I've barely started. I doubt it, but I just like was running around on the moon for like 45 minutes last night.
Speaker 1:So you went to the moon, but US government hasn't right now.
Speaker 2:They have.
Speaker 1:I don't know, seeing a lot of stuff where they're saying all the missions are not real.
Speaker 2:You can probably get, you can probably convince. The Earth is flat too.
Speaker 1:I don't know it depends. It depends on got evidence Some YouTuber sitting in his basement. Does he have good evidence?
Speaker 2:We'll see. We'll see is the evidence that every other planet we find is round and not enough.
Speaker 1:I want to jump into the person you picked for. Oh yeah, like there are celebrities spotlight and it's good kind of we're loose quotes on celebrity here, yeah.
Speaker 2:And you said, think of some people. And you're like, get like a list of people, so that way we have it. And I didn't do that. And then you texted me and we're like, how, who should we pick?
Speaker 2:I was like oh, so I can do one hour of research before we talk about exactly and I just thought of like, oh, maybe famous people that went to my high school and so you know, Google the list of like famous people from Abington High School and, at play, I guess the most famous would have been Bob Saget.
Speaker 1:Oh, that would have been a good one. Yeah, he went to your high school.
Speaker 2:He didn't graduate. He went there for like a year. I was like give me a fuck out of this shit hole.
Speaker 1:I'm way too funny for this.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and he was getting made fun of, he was getting made. He was getting called Bob, something that rhymes with Saget. All right, yeah.
Speaker 1:And it was like probably his whole life.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but especially when like specifically says that about Abington, when he was there, hilarious, and I was like OK, maybe not him. And then Eddie George I know you don't know who that is, but he was a running back for the Tennessee Titans, I think, or maybe in the NFL he was a running back but he didn't graduate from it. He went there for a year and then switched to like a prep school to get like better notice for football. And then on the list was this Robin Arzon, or say the, she's a Peloton instructor, like kind of you know, getting famous off that shit.
Speaker 1:I was like the one I like.
Speaker 2:Maybe I don't know.
Speaker 1:I forget which one I like.
Speaker 2:And then on this list was this Stephen A Schwartzman.
Speaker 1:Not that I'm riding a peloton, just watching the video of the chick riding.
Speaker 2:If you're watching this, you can tell both of us are not riding peloton, absolutely no. And so I looked at Stephen A Schwartzman, who, while I was at the high school, he donated money to build a new stadium. I was like oh, we got like a guy willing to donate money to build a stadium. That's kind of cool. We got a rich guy went to the high school I don't know how rich like fucking billionaire was in the list of top 50 influential people in the world in like 2015 and 16.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I thought you picked it because you were like, oh, this is send, stand down like a conspiracy rabbit hole.
Speaker 2:No, no just just because this dude went to like was a billionaire that went to the high school, and so part of why I did pick it was thinking about it. I got shit like. He did donate that for the the stadium and then in 2018 or 19, he donated twenty five million dollars to the high school to like. Right, because the high school was getting old. To like just renovate it and they ended up building a huge new science wing that basically doubled the size of the high school with this guy's money. But one of the things he wanted was he wanted naming rights to the high school. He wanted it not to be Abington High School. He wanted it to be Stephen A Schwarzman High School. Yeah, because you've just basically paid for the whole high school to be renovated.
Speaker 2:So like name it after me, trying to spark other billionaires and millionaires to donate to their former high schools. To be like you know you can get some naming rights or something after it to have your legacy but also contribute back to hometowns and you know something for public education. And it went over like a lead balloon and like. I remember seeing shit online Facebook and every like Twitter. Just people like how could there's? Just because he's got billions of dollars. This guy thinks he can name the school whatever and it's like, yeah, yeah, like I remember people I graduated with were up in arms and I was there Like can you believe this? I was like, fucking, let him do it. Like I'm not, I graduated from Abington, I'm not going back to high school.
Speaker 1:And I don't see why it would matter.
Speaker 2:Everyone that I talk to about it all don't live in Abington anymore Is like even if you have not going to be sending their kids, even if you have kids they're not going to that dude's high school.
Speaker 1:Neither. I mean it seems like a win. Win, I mean for that dude's ego and for the community to upgrade the high school and saves taxpayer money. I guess, yeah, he's. He's sure they'll still find a way to spend it.
Speaker 2:But no, I think his 25 million. Like he donated 25 million towards putting in this new wing, which had cost 40 million. So it was like 15 million from the taxpayer still. But guess what? That whole wing of the high school doesn't get made without him still. But he's donated a shit ton of money all over the place. Like he started a Rhodes scholarship type of deal. I mean, it's in China but he donated like 300 million dollars towards educational scholarships over there. He's got billions of dollars but he has at times donated hundreds of millions to different causes.
Speaker 1:All right. So you're like oh, this guy's good.
Speaker 2:I think he's just a dude that has billions of dollars and he's like whatever, like I'm not going to. 200 million is still a drop in the bucket in that guy.
Speaker 1:He doesn't give a fuck. So they eventually build the school and do all the renovations they did, and he just dropped the. So now it's.
Speaker 2:This high school is still having high school, but there's the Stephen A Schwartzman science wing now, so he got his name on the building.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he compromised. See, I went down a totally different rabbit hole of just like oh so he's a CEO of Black Rock and starts it with another guy. And it's just like you start looking at the names and it's like all the regular people the hearse, the Rockefellers, like all of those people you know, the thousand or so people that run the country, and he's involved with all those people. It's weird, you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no like President Obama called him to be. Like hey, can you talk to the Republicans in Senate and stop them from fucking his country up?
Speaker 1:He's, he's paid both sides Like he was like hyping up Hillary and then he was also like hyping up all. He was just paying everybody off just in case they had a chance, like Rubio, ted Cruz all of them.
Speaker 2:If you're a billionaire, you break off a little slice everywhere, and then whoever wins go out of peace?
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, it's. And then you like look at, then you start researching, like oh, who are his kids? Like how many wives has he had? And you know, his kid, the daughter I think is like actually a podcaster. Yeah, she's like oh, like don't have time for moms to read books or something. She has this goofy ass thing and it's just like oh, so you just do nothing.
Speaker 2:So you did way more research on the dude I suggested than I did.
Speaker 1:It's like you just started. You just follow the trail of like all these people and then they're all like marrying other people that are in the circles and it's just like, oh all right, see how this is, these are the elites. You found an elite, Damn I really sent you down.
Speaker 2:I was like, dude, this guy was goofy, wanted to rename the high school, and I sent you down a rabbit hole.
Speaker 1:He went to Yale, went to Skull and Bones, and then he went to Harvard like they always do, of course and then made millions and billions out of just doing stuff like what buying businesses or corporate they don't really Corporate takeover type of shoe yeah, takeovers and you're like well, this guy's getting billions of dollars, so that money's coming from somewhere, but he's not making anything.
Speaker 1:He doesn't make anything. He doesn't have businesses that make anything, he's just acquisitions and investments. Yeah, it's just weird. I don't get it. I don't understand it at all, obviously, but I don't know, just seems like he's one of the guys that's stealing all our money, or at least profiting from stealing all the money.
Speaker 2:I mean, he's not giving it back to us.
Speaker 1:Well, he's giving, he's donating a lot of stuff, but that's all.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but that doesn't go to people that goes to you know different?
Speaker 1:paying off people and trying Organizations? Yeah, of course.
Speaker 2:I'll donate 200 million to your charity now, you owe me.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, absolutely. I was one of the other things I saw that he was. I don't know it, just I don't know. I went down like I wish I could remember half the stuff I read, but I can't. But yeah, seems like he's one of the rolling class, he's like 70 something, and he did it with another guy who, like it seems like they come from nothing or close to nothing, like just small businesses, like his dad, I guess, ran a small goods shop in Philly and that's how he came to be. But I don't know.
Speaker 2:I did see that it and I only read his Wikipedia page, I didn't click on any links off of his that he spent millions of dollars, millions on his 60th birthday yeah, 60th and 70th.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that wife's like some hot chick who, who was also previously married to another, like millionaire, billionaire guy.
Speaker 2:Yeah Well, once you get in, that you know elite circle, you're not going back.
Speaker 1:They're all like like it. Just like you bounce from all the sectors of like journalism to like financial and then something to do with education. They're always on boards, like they're all on like 10 different boards of this and that and it's like really like you have all that time to run this billion dollar company and you're on all these boards that also affect your billion dollar company. A little weird.
Speaker 2:Yeah, company runs itself. He's got to get the you know red tape out of the way. Yeah for sure I didn't see. I should have looked into. The only one thing that I thought was like really kind of interesting was I think it was 2011, there was a drought in like Miami, dade County and the average person during that time for the year from 11 to 12, consumed about 108,000 gallons of water. He was a top five consumer on the list of people using water at like 7.5 million gallons that year.
Speaker 1:And it's like not even really him. It's one of his mansions that's just using that much money or that much water during the year.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, no, I'm sure it's just funny.
Speaker 1:It's funny Like that's how much money he has.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but there's someone that, hey, don't water your lawn because water is scarce, and he's probably got a mansion property that's watering everything, oh yeah for sure, and then if he has a problem with that, then he'll just pay off whatever local boards or like certifying.
Speaker 1:It's just crazy, the corruption.
Speaker 2:Yeah, whatever dude hit me with a fine.
Speaker 1:Yeah, seriously. Hey, can you beer me? I see why you brought her. There's no bottles left, I think, just a can.
Speaker 2:This is great podcasting right here.
Speaker 1:I'll cut this part out.
Speaker 2:You just double speed it.
Speaker 1:Oh, you didn't have to, you just throw it.
Speaker 2:Oh man, that would have been great. Can I dis-golf it? Something would have broke.
Speaker 1:No, can't break anything in here. Got one expensive thing, two expensive things. Thank you, yeah, so that was a good pick. I like that one. That one sent me down a research. I thought you were just going to pick sports guys. I was like this is going to suck.
Speaker 2:No, I was on the verge of just picking sports guys, but you know I looked it up and I was like I got a billionaire. Oh, okay, the only thing I have in my notes, and I don't know if you've heard this, but I feel like you should have Adriana from Sopranos.
Speaker 1:Has a podcast with the brother.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:On Tom's network. Adriana oh, not Adriana, I'm sorry. The daughter Meadow.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, okay, my bad, Adriana, like what's the girlfriend.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Christopher's wife that he had to kill. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Spoiler's. The fuck dude has an only fans. Oh really, yeah. How old is she now? Almost 50.
Speaker 1:I was going to say 50, right.
Speaker 2:Maybe on the north side of 50.
Speaker 1:All right, okay, good for her, you're just like damn I'll be checking Reddit and hearing a little bit. I was going to say yeah, no need to pay. It's like who's the UFC chick that just went to OnlyFans. She made more on OnlyFans than she did her entire UFC career.
Speaker 2:And she's like a big name Page fans. Yeah, she's doing OnlyFans. Yeah, is she doing like?
Speaker 1:really OnlyFans? No, no, just Spikini, do you say she used to just be on Instagram, in underwear, that's what she's doing. I'm working out, I'm hot. Yeah, that's what she's doing, maybe tits, I forget, but that's like.
Speaker 2:You see that, and like I'm doing OnlyFans and you see these simps fucking shell out the $20 a month for.
Speaker 1:I guess, if they got the money?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I guess, but it's like oh, that's what she does on Instagram, You're just paying for Instagram.
Speaker 1:Yeah, weird. Well, I always think back to that story of that was on Sword and Scale that remember that kid that was paying that foreign OnlyFans girl, like his parents, money spent like $200,000, and they confronted him and they were like hey, you've got to stop this. He was like, oh okay, I'll fix this, Killed him both and his brother and then apologized to all his other fellow simps and the thing like I'll be going away for a while. Guys, I'm very sorry, I killed my parents and brother, no remorse.
Speaker 2:Well, they were going to find out that his girlfriend was in Romania. He was an online hooker.
Speaker 1:Insane, but that's pretty interesting.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm surprised you hadn't heard that, that's it seems like that would have been in your news wheelhouse.
Speaker 1:I mean it would eventually got to me, but I did. I've been watching clips of Meadow and I can't think of the son's name. He's real dickhead in the series Sopranos. What's the name?
Speaker 2:Isn't it Tony Junior? Is it no, anthony Anthony? It's Tony Junior, I guess, so yeah.
Speaker 1:But they have a podcast on Tom Scorer's network.
Speaker 2:Oh.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they got a bunch of clips. I was just watching one where she like her first husband, who was also her manager, like went to jail for fraud and stuff, stole a bunch of her money and shit Typical, that's what happens to child actors. That's what they talk about. Pretty funny, Damn. I forget the other thing. So you had that. That's what you brought to this table.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I made a note, oh shit.
Speaker 2:This is a first See if I can remember it. You made a note. See, if I can remember it.
Speaker 1:I thought that's what the notes for, so I put a note, but I always think I'll remember more than I do about my note.
Speaker 2:You got to give it a full sentence.
Speaker 1:One, two, three, four words. And it says Brian's, a pussy Is a pussy.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:So I guess he's just a country singer. Which country's stupid? And I just watched the New Age country.
Speaker 1:Yeah, cop's report or whatever I follow on Instagram. And it's just a cop pulled over his security. He's writing him a ticket. He pulls up next to him and gets out and is like what's the rush? Like this is taking way too long. And he's like the cops just like, hey, get in your truck and wait. I'm writing him a ticket. And he's like no, no, I don't have to. And he's like you can either get in your truck and wait for me to finish writing this guy a simple ticket or you can go to jail. And he busts back with like well, you can just take me to jail. He's like I'm not getting in my truck, okay, gives him another chance. And then he still fucks with him and he takes him to jail and he's just sitting in the cop's car and he's just like such a dickhead douche, like this is taking too long, like loosen, these cops. These cops are really uncomfortable. And the cops are like, yeah, they're not made for comfort, just a real toolbag, douche bag. But that's what I had for notes.
Speaker 2:Well, that's good, that's. I do love a celebrity getting like getting confronted by police.
Speaker 1:Well, the real world is like that's why everybody loves those. When like a really like spoiled brat person gets like they're like, you're not doing this to me.
Speaker 2:No, they're definitely doing this to us, I was like I mean it was years ago but, like Reese Witherspoon was one of my favorites where she's like do you know who I?
Speaker 1:am.
Speaker 2:They're like, yeah, like, obviously you're famous. We know who Reese Witherspoon is.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he pulled that shit too.
Speaker 2:Well, I'm America's sweetheart. Like cool America's sweetheart, hands behind your back.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Like he pulled the same shit. He's like you're going to feel like such an idiot when you know, when you find out Like he's doing his job.
Speaker 2:You're the idiot. You know what the best part about that is. Now that cop gets to go back to whatever bar all the cops had you head to after their shift. Sit down and go. Fucking guess who. I arrested dude.
Speaker 1:Listen to that. His shitty song comes on the jukebox or whatever at the bar. I've rested this guy. He's real dickhead Right.
Speaker 2:And I know other cops oh how could? You do that, it's probably high fives all around.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, man Definitely. I just thought that was funny. I'll send you that video. It's just so embarrassing. But I guess, like I don't know, maybe we'll never. We'll probably never find out what it's like to be so important when you like, get confronted with real stuff, people are like no, no, you don't understand. Like, this is the real world. You did something wrong. You're getting handcuffed.
Speaker 2:Well, that's somebody that just hasn't lived in the real world.
Speaker 1:Well, love's touch with reality.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they've lived in a place where they've had a manager do everything for them, where they don't have to ever be confronted about anything, because any situation like that they're deferring to a manager or an assistant or something.
Speaker 1:I'm going to hold my stance on him being a douchebag and I don't like country, but I will do a deep dive, like to see who his parents were and like is he a blue collar guy? Is he like what did he raise? Like in a trailer park? Was he raised like you know? And his parents paid for his you know studio time and he just got the right algorithm, paid the right people and did gay stuff and now they can hold it against him for the rest of his life.
Speaker 2:Like did he? You report back on him next podcast All right, we'll do Zach Brian Pussy.
Speaker 1:That's all I've got. That was my one thing Out of what 67 episodes. That was what I brought to the table. I mean that is.
Speaker 2:It is a first that you went to your phone notes and went, you know phone notes and went. I got something.
Speaker 1:Hell yeah, and I remembered a lot from it with four words.
Speaker 2:That was good. Yeah, I like I try to give myself a sentence on what I'm like, just a spark, whatever thought I had at the time. So should I? I don't know, zach Pussy is a pretty good spark, I think, agreed. What other country guys are pussies? Probably most of them.
Speaker 1:Whoa geez, I don't know, which ones are cool.
Speaker 2:Maybe that's not as famous.
Speaker 1:Pop country yeah.
Speaker 2:I would. I don't know, chris Stapleton is huge, but he seems like a dude. That is kind of cool that oh fuck, I can't remember the guy's name, but he was like wearing a meat eater shirt. He was on an episode of Meat Eater with Steven Rinella. Like him and the guys he's on tour with, they went in north of South Dakota like Antelope hunting and was like yeah, this dude sounds like a pretty down to earth guy.
Speaker 1:I think she said it who Luke Combs? That one's cool.
Speaker 2:Zach.
Speaker 1:Brian's a pussy Luke.
Speaker 2:Combs is cool. Yeah, bear well. Luke Combs, at least in one episode of a TV show on Netflix, made him seem like a down to earth dude.
Speaker 1:Also, I do realize I'm a 37 year old guy with a what?
Speaker 2:Rick and Morty t-shirt on.
Speaker 1:T-shirt calling Brian a pussy. I get it, I understand.
Speaker 2:I think you could beat him in a fight.
Speaker 1:Oh, absolutely not. I mean, he's like 20 something and fit. Definitely couldn't beat the editor's handcuffs though.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that is I liked. These aren't comfortable. Can you adjust these?
Speaker 1:No, Especially like I guess the best part of it is just his indignant, like just unself-aware attitude he had when he was like he thought he was just going to tell the cop how it is, like he was going to boss him around, show him what he should be doing.
Speaker 2:Oh, I do have something that I forgot Labor Day weekend up the mountains and we're hanging out by the fire drinking beer, smoking a cigar and let me get some cigars for in here you smoke inside. Yeah who cares? Yeah, okay, it's not cigarettes. I don't give a fuck, I'll smoke a cigar in here?
Speaker 2:I really don't care, but we're smoking cigars sitting by the fire and we're out in Potter County, which is real dark, like the view of the stars is just immaculate. I love going there and I just look up and I was like what the fuck is that? And it dawned on me that I saw this. I saw or the people up there, we all saw Elon Musk's Starlink going through the sky, just like the line of satellites going at, like 50 satellites in a line, just like straight across going across the sky. I was pretty fucking sick to see.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's cool. I think everybody was posting on the local thing around here. They saw at the other night and I was like huh, that was pretty cool, it was pretty cool, especially like you could see all these other stars and it's so random out there.
Speaker 2:There's like real no patterns and besides like the couple constellations that everybody knows about Big dipper, yeah, little dipper. And then you just see this straight line of Orion's belt satellites that are coming through. You got any others?
Speaker 1:That's it, it stopped right there. And that Orion belt, just because of Men in Black.
Speaker 2:The galaxy is on. Orion's belt.
Speaker 1:Now that's cool, I mean, I just keep thinking, like I've got I don't know, I've got the five year plan. Like I'll have a mountain house in five years, maybe not a house, maybe a trailer on a plot of land, I don't know, maybe an RV On some land, but that's the plan for the next five years. Well, when?
Speaker 2:you get it out there, you'll be invited. For sure I'll be there looking for Starlink. We'll have some four-wheelers.
Speaker 1:Go fishing Fuck yeah, but not trouts. We're gonna have a pond with bass. Okay, get some lake trout. Still some trout. I could do that. That's mostly what I've been watching recently on Instagram is just like homesteads and off-grid living. That's like man, this is awesome, but some of them don't have hot water and you're like, ah, this seems cool right now, like you're outside, you got a little chickens and goats, but you're not washing your hands when you touch stuff that's dirty.
Speaker 2:I've seen some of those videos and they're all pretty cool, until they bring you inside their house and they're like washing some dishes or doing something inside and they're like. Well, let me tell you about the American education system.
Speaker 1:You know okay.
Speaker 2:They just. You do good work outside of your house, but obviously you're off the grid for a reason.
Speaker 1:Oh, we're homeschooling our four-kit children Like oh man, and most of our rules come from the Bible. You're like fuck, You're doing so well. Homesteading seems so cool man.
Speaker 2:it's like I was so on your side for a long time.
Speaker 1:I could probably file them with the government. But it's then, it's like also, man, these gays like, oh, come on guy.
Speaker 2:Have you seen them? I mean, it's gotta go, you gotta be some crossover for like the lumberjack, like Instagram, like real stuff.
Speaker 1:No, I don't think I've seen any. I've watched the games where they do the job.
Speaker 2:No, not that I'm saying like dudes, like out on a homestead or at a mountain house, just like these fucking giant you know, log rounds splitting on with a wedge or a hammer.
Speaker 1:They're making their own log cabin. Except watch those.
Speaker 2:No, just like they have a log cabin and then outside of the log cabin is just a whole shit ton of wood, like the log rounds that they're using a mall or a sledgehammer and a wedge to split.
Speaker 1:No, I've seen a few of those.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So there's that which. It's a bunch of hunky dudes that are like having chicks. Look at them, see you're losing me.
Speaker 1:That's why I'm like I've seen people cut wood, I've seen people cut down trees. Never once was I like oh, hunky dudes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's because you're, so you know, anti gay. You can't appreciate that is not true.
Speaker 1:I'm pro pro whatever you want. You just can't appreciate the male anatomy.
Speaker 2:No, look, it's fine, it's just not like you're saying you don't, I'm not, I'm, neither am I. They just come up.
Speaker 1:It sounds like the algorithms got you dude. Well, sometimes it is like hunky sports players hunky woodsmen, hunky frisbee throwers. Now there's a through line there.
Speaker 2:It's not hunks playing frisbee, they're just kind of dweebs.
Speaker 1:With their shirts off. No, oh, all right.
Speaker 2:Only Burke Kreischer. You know well. The point I'm getting at is that you see enough of those videos and then it slides you over to a couple butch lesbians that are doing the same shit and you're like oh, like it's. It's not just for you know, chicks looking at dudes, it's for chicks trying to find other chicks.
Speaker 1:Now that I can get behind, like all right, let's see her take her shirt off.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she would be getting behind you for sure.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I understand how that works, but you can still dream and still think about like all right this is way better than watching a dude right Sometimes?
Speaker 2:I've always argued the case like it's just so. Okay, you argue the case. Now, when you play a video game, are you making your character?
Speaker 1:a dude or a chick.
Speaker 2:Dude, because I'm a dude, but especially if it's a third person game. Now you're just staring at dude ass the whole time. You're playing a video game.
Speaker 1:I don't know, you're kind of seeing from above.
Speaker 2:It's not right behind their ass. Either way, I think you're staring at a dude the whole time, while you could just make a chick and be staring at a chick while you play the game.
Speaker 1:I guess, I don't know, that's. That's a stretch, that's a stretch. I think there's something weird with the guy that always picks the female character.
Speaker 2:I mean every time. Sure, that's weird.
Speaker 1:But sometimes you're like, I mean, I could only see it if it's like a competitive like and there's less mass to hit. That's what I could see. Besides, that, I don't know, says something about your psyche. If you're picking the female character when you're like going to build a character.
Speaker 2:I mean, I'm usually making a dude, but I've seen this argument I mean on. Halo, I always did. You couldn't change what they look like yeah, because they had the armor on. But you could change the voice. Okay, and I always made Master Chief the chick voice just because the dying sounds were funnier, All right.
Speaker 1:I mean, that's a rhyme and a reason. Sounds good on paper. Yeah, it's funny. Yeah, Well, probably other reasons for that Look.
Speaker 2:I, I'm a chick on the inside. Is that what you're? You're asking for? No real plans by birthday coming up end of September. Oh right, not planning or doing anything for it.
Speaker 1:Oh, you should become really good friends with your neighbors, and then we can have them on the podcast, but I get it.
Speaker 2:Nothing really Okay, got to start throwing some invites out for get some guests on. Yeah, definitely Tired of talking about you.
Speaker 1:It's brutal. It really is. I feel bad because I've got nothing to say, Like I need somebody to bring up subjects and then I can just spout off the mouth recklessly. That's my favorite part.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you need conversation to be happening, that you can just derail, yes, derail, chime in add to some would perspectives. Some would say take away, but I guess it depends on what side of the coin you're on.
Speaker 1:True that? When are we gonna have Brit on again?
Speaker 2:I don't know If she wants to come back on. It's not like she has to.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I need to know more about the second wave of COVID and how bad it's going to be, and we should all be masking up again.
Speaker 2:Yeah right, that's not going to happen.
Speaker 1:And when these freaking the heroes are going to be like now, they're not heroes, right, Are nurses still heroes? I don't think so anymore. I got to mode it back to regular people civilians.
Speaker 2:So same with teachers, same with you. Know everybody All right, cops are below. You know regular people.
Speaker 1:at this point, they went down and didn't come back up. All right, here's something. How about the dude that escaped from Cheshire County? Oh yeah there. Did you see anything?
Speaker 2:about that. I saw he was inside Longwood Gardens and then I saw I don't know I didn't do any research to verify it, but they said I saw like a little clip of a video where it was whatever prison yard he was in had a spot where these two walls where like the wall for the tower and a wall for something were close enough that he did, like Spider-Man, crawl with his feet in hand straight up to get over a doorway to get out. And that's how he did.
Speaker 1:Yeah, pretty crazy. I mean he learned that from like another inmate that did it like a couple weeks before. Yeah, it's like reinforce it with barbed wire.
Speaker 2:They obviously didn't work. Yeah, I did see that he escaped. The same way a different inmate escaped and they didn't do anything to stop it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they were searching our station for him. And then just like all of like down in Kennet Square, like Longwood Gardens area Pretty crazy, like I was talking with a cop buddy and I'm like why don't they just use like infrared at night, like go there like one o'clock in the morning over the forest and just find them and it's like, oh well, it can't go through the canopy of leaves. It's like, huh, I thought they had like shit that could do it.
Speaker 2:Figured you to have the technology for that, yeah like I've seen.
Speaker 1:what was that TV show with Chris Pratt we watched? Definitely could do that Terminalist. Yeah, apparently they don't have that technology, you think?
Speaker 2:the TV show was lying to us.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like why aren't they sending out like a SEAL team to go get them? And it's like the same thing with the last manhunt. My buddy was telling me he's like the guy that killed the two state troopers up up in the Poconos or whatever.
Speaker 1:He's like so they send. First of all, it was a holiday week. This, this last one, the guy that they're looking for right now, it like fell on holiday week and I was like, oh shit, all these cops are getting overtime, holiday pay. It's going to be awesome for them. But the same thing when they had that guy, they were doing a manhunt, everybody's getting overtime. They're bringing up every cop from the state and, like he said, so he found something that may have been what, like the guy used or trashed. The guy left and so he calls over his like higher up and he's like, hey, this, I found this here, he might be in this location. And he goes, yeah, go ahead, sends him off.
Speaker 1:And then, like the next day, he's like the dude's like reporting as he found it and like taking the credit, because all these manhunts are just ways for people to get promoted. It's hilarious because it's just there's. Just once you realize corruption is everywhere, you kind of like just start being really what am I like? Real negative and like skeptical, very skeptical of everything. And then so he said this last one, like somebody suggested like, hey, we should get horses like they could ride them. They're hired, they'll be able to see more, like let's ride them through. And then, like you know, a three days later this the superiors like hey, we should get, we should go here and get some horses from Bob, like his idea. Like oh man, awesome, that's all I have on that, but he's five foot tall, like I mean, he killed a woman like I'm not too worried about the dude took 30 stabs to kill her.
Speaker 2:I mean maybe it's, maybe it took two and he had an extra 28 just cause.
Speaker 1:Yeah, a legal immigrant. Yeah, Thanks a lot, biden.
Speaker 2:But I was younger. I remember I had a tournament up not in the Poconos, but up near that way, and that weekend we're headed up to that tournament. There is whatever prison up that way someone escaped from and they're like, hey, you escaped. And then they think he floated down the river and I was like the river that's like runs through where we're playing. The soccer tournament is like, are we all going to get stabbed? Like waiting between games.
Speaker 1:Well, guess it didn't happen. I know 20 K on that guy, though I wish I could find him. You need the dog out here. Dog the bounty on it. Yeah, in Hawaii you'd fight in fires.
Speaker 2:I was going to make it generally. There's no, no criminals running around right now.
Speaker 1:Well, and I know, I think that's a different island. Yeah, right.
Speaker 2:No, I think the fires were written, now are just. I don't semantics. I'm talking about shit I don't really know, so skip this part All right.
Speaker 1:Well, this is another episode of the express lane podcast with Kevin Stan Peace. See you.